10mm Mounted Goblin Heroes

These three guys represent the flower of goblin nobility in my 10mm Orc & Goblin army.  I plan to put a pennant or banner of some sort on the central figures lance at a later date.

What is curious about these Copplestone figures is that they are marketed as orc (not goblin) wolf riders.  Unsurprisingly, the armour, style and dimensions of the riders also look a lot like the armour, style and dimensions of the Copplestone orc foot troops, which also feature in my force.

In the post regarding Hobgoblin Wolf Riders I mentioned how this blurring of the line between orc and goblin doesnt bother me one jot in conceptual terms, but how it can be a bit inconvenient in practical wargames terms.  It is mildly irritating here.  I decided that the line of least resistance is the “if it sits on a wolf, then its not an orc” definition, therefore these guys are simply big goblin beefcakes.

This will be the last 10mm fantasy installment for a while I reckon.  I have a pretty solid core of a force painted up since I started the project, which is satisfying.  With games of Kings of War using 10mm figures likely to crop up over the next few months, that seems likely to motivate me to add occasional units to the force from time to time.

10mm Hobgoblin Wolf Riders #1

 

The latest units that I have finished are these two units of wolf riders.  Each unit consists of two bases.

Kings of War is our fantasy game of choice right now, as determined by theottovonbismark and MT after they played some experimental games using a number of systems.

In KoW the goblins and orcs each have a separate army list.  Both armies feature units called “Sniffs” which are described as bow using lesser orcs.  The sniffs in the orc list are infiltrating scout troops and the sniffs in the goblin list are these guys, bow armed wolf (or “fleabag” in KoW parlance) cavalry.

With scale creep and stylistic differences the line between an orc and a goblin in 28mm can sometimes be a bit blurry.  This is further pronounced in 10mm I have found, with some manufacturers goblins being larger than other manufacturers orcs for example.

Although I am fine with the notion of orcs and goblins being quite variable in appearance (like dogs), it is usually important to be able to easily distinguish which troop type a tabletop model represents.  It is important that this is apparent not only to me, but very obvious to my opponent too.

So I decided to paint my sniff units with yellow skin tones to distinguish them from the orcs and goblins.  For reasons that I am unsure of I associate yellow and orange with hobgoblins.  It could because of the old GW “Hobgoblin Orange” paint, but I think that its more that that.  Seeing as sniffs straddle the line between orcs and goblins I figured that yellow flesh might work.

The models themselves are GW Warmaster goblin wolf riders.  Whatever issues people might have with GW, their 10mm fantasy figures are better than any other manufacturers that I have come across so far although predictably they are eye-wateringly expensive.

10mm Kings of War Session

This week theottovonbismark, MT and I focused the Saturday of our gaming weekend on Kings of War in 10mm.  It represented the first proper outings for my new 10mm orcs and goblins and also my first proper session of Kings of War.  It was fun.  We will do it again.

10mm Saruman the White

Saruman the White

Saruman today.  Another Copplestone figure, this guy was a pleasure to paint.  Lovely sharp detail and nice deep recesses, the figure lent itself to my painting style rather well I think.

The robes go from black through to a very light cream (GC Off White).  The high contrast may not be terribly realistic, but it does make the detail on the figure stand out easily from a few feet away.

“There will be no dawn… for men.”

I made an effort to paint eyebrows on this figure, which was a bit risky.  Mainly I did it because the look of the character when played by Christopher Lee in the movies relies heavily on the big black bushy eyebrows and black ‘tasche.  So I thought that I would give it a go in 10mm for fun.

I think that this is the figure that I found most enjoyable to paint in this project so far 🙂

10mm Evil Army Shot #1

After a phase of chaotic mancave reorganising I got the place ready for gaming in again over the weekend.  After a couple of games of Malifaux today I cleared up enough space to take a group shot of my 10mm orc, goblin and general evildoers army.

I have plenty more additions to the force in the pipeline, but here is everything completed to date.  Not too bad at all ocnsidering everything in it has been assembled and painted this month so far.

Lots more 10mm Fantasy

Mounted Nazgul

Nazgul mounted on Fell Beast

My first unit of Orcs…

…and how those orcs look alongside last weeks goblins.

Orc heroes alongside last weeks goblin shaman.

My first unit of wolf rider goblin cavalry.

My stone thrower (along with Sweetums-like propulsion system…

… and a shot from the side to show the brains of the artillery unit.

I am enjoying this project a lot.  The turnover rate is rapid, allowing me to get to paint units with a little bit of care while still amassing a force reasonably quickly: very satisfying.

Comments and criticisms all happily received.  If anyone has any questions about the stuff shown then let me know.

10mm War Trolls

War Trolls

The next addition to my growing 10mm horde is these Copplestone War Trolls.  These are very nicely sculpted figures that were pleasant to paint and I recommend them without any serious hesitation.  I do have a couple of minor gripes though.

The sculpts have nice faces that have a characteristic Copplestone style to them.  The detail on the models is crisp although the designer has kept the figures quite clean: there are not many extraneous details.

Normally I like a minimalist miniature design approach as it speeds painting along.  Extra detail does not always equal more character (Games Workshop please take note).  In the case of these trolls however, I think that it was a minor error.

Because these figures are quite large (as 10mm trolls go at least) and because there are few details on the figures that demonstrate scale other than the occasional skull on their belt (which could be a skull from a fantasy creature of any size really), it is easy to mistake these guys for 25mm or short 28mm figures.

The shields are the main culprits here: the shield looks plain enough to be a 60cm diameter Roman parma rather than the two metre diameter, livestock/vehicle/you-and-your-family flattening piece of ordnance that a creature of that size would likely carry.

Also the fact that the plain shields and weapons look somewhat factory produced is somehow incongruous with the primitive looking trolls.  I know that Mordor and the like seem to have quite efficient production facilities (no union presence is a factor Id say) but the pairing of those weapons and those trolls doesnt sit quite right with me.

“Shhh! I dont think he’s seen us…”

Painting was straightforward.  I considered painting them a shade of green but the scaly shoulders, knees and arse were obviously designed under influence from the troll design in the Lord of the Rings movies, so I went with an approximation of that.  I enjoy painting pale flesh tones anyway.

In Warmaster troll sized creatures tend to be mounted three to a base.  As these figures are being prepped primarily for that game that was the plan.

Unlike when painting 28mm figures, I paint miniatures at this scale separately from their bases and attach them afterwards, so that I can get at the awkward areas while painting.  Thats what I did with these guys too.

Trying to get three big guys like these to stand together on the same base was awkward.  Awkward enough in fact for me to swear passionately when I manged to knock all nine trolls onto the wooden floor while trying to perch them delicately on their bases without cover each other with glue.

Once the tears had dried sufficiently for me to cover up the damaged paintwork as well as I could I finally got them stuck down and based.

20:20 hindsight tells me that I should have simply mounted the figures two to a base and added either scenic pieces or the occasional goblin or orc to add scale, but its too late to do that now.

“RrrrAAaaaARRrrrgh!!!”

Despite all of my whining I still like these guys quite a bit.  Their particularly massive stature makes them look rather threatening alongside the front of my second goblin unit.

10mm Goblins #2

Insert Mockney Quote Here.

This is a quick post to show my second unit of 10mm Goblins.  They were painted at the same time as the first unit, so everything that I said about them applies to these guys too.

10mm Goblins #1

My first finished 10mm unit.

As mentioned earlier this week one of my bi-decade forays into fantasy miniatures has begun.  This time its 10mm orcs and goblins based as regiments rather than individually, hopefully for use in a variety of games.  This unit of little guys plus their shaman chaperone are the first off the conveyor.

Apart from the leader models in the regiments the figures are from the GW Battle of Five Armies boxed set.  The majority of the models in that box are slightly smaller than their GW Warmaster equivalents, but not so much that it bothers me, doubly so in the case of goblins.  As long as the little guys are smaller than the orcs that they hang out with and the humans that they want to eat, then I dont really mind what size they are as long as they look reasonably malignant.

An obliging Chaos Space Marine models the Summer 2012 Goblin Collection.

Each BoFA troop type is represented by two strips of plastic infantry or cavalry.  Unfortunately only one strip is supplied for each troop type which results in a cookie cutter look when they rank up.  This is little bit of a pity.  If there were even two strips for each unit then enough variation could easily be incorporated into units to draw the eye away from the cloned look.

On the other hand, if the goblins are anything to go by then the figures in the BoFA box paint up very satisfyingly.  The sculpts are clean and less comical than the Warmaster goblins, if that sort of thing appeals (I would be happy with either really).

To give a little more identity to the units I cut the plastic troop strip down and added a Warmaster Night Goblin and accessory (a squig) to the front rank of the front base of the three base strong unit.

These additions dont mean anything specific in rules terms, but make the units a little more recognisable and more interesting to paint.  I imagine that scale purists might feel that the Warmaster gobbos look a little stylistically inconsistent with their weaker underlings.  This bothers me not one iota.

LotR Goblins (from lotr.wikia.com)

I made up the colour scheme for these figures on the fly.  I knew that they had to be dark but not so dark as to be indistinct.

I enjoy the Lord of the Rings movies (I watched them for inspiration while painting these miniatures) but I feel that the evil forces on those films are just a little too hard to see due to the very restrained palette used.  The most obviously noticeable variation from goblin to goblin is usually their skin tone which varies from grey to green to red to black.

The photo above illustrates what I mean adequately enough: even in daylight the goblins are almost monochrome.

A decision to make the evil LotR movie forces look murky and to ensure that everything from their flesh to their garments to their armour and weapons were similar tones must have been made somewhere during production of the movies.  I suspect that the urge to make sure that the bad guys looked menacing rather than comical (which would have upset the tone of the series badly) was the driving factor.  The colour scheme for my bunch of 10mm bad guys had different goals.

I decided to go for a more traditional toy soldier-y, distinct-on-the-tabletop look for these guys.  Quite bright green skin tones and red focal points work to lift the black/grey/brown outfits.  Highlights were applied quite harshly as they simply dont show otherwise.  I may not have made the highlights bright enough to show up on a table three feet away anyway, but it pleases me to add that level of detail all the same.

So while my goblins are wearing mainly black outfits with mid-to-dark metallic areas they also feature a fair bit of red, mainly on shields.  Its a little bit cartoony perhaps, but it makes the tiny little guys more interesting to look at en masse.  With just black and green they looked uninspiring.

“Ah’m a witch doc-tah!”

Speaking of uninspiring, the shaman model (also plastic and from the Five Armies box) is is the opposite I reckon: he is a cool looking little guy who stands out on the tabletop, partly because of his round base but also because of his cloak and skull topped, shamanistic accoutrements.

Painting this malignant little turd was my reward for painting the rank and file.  I enjoyed painting the figure and I think that it shows.  I still havent named him (or any of his colleagues) yet though.  Like getting some half decent photos of the army as it grows, all in good time.

Next up will likely be either be my first unit of trolls or my first unit of orcs, I havent decided which yet.

Comments and criticisms all happily received 🙂

10mm Fantasy Project

Image borrowed from somethingawful.com

I am more of a sci-fi nerd than a fantasy nerd.  Observing this distinction renders me a quantum nerd.

Although I have read a number of fantasy books and played numerous fantasy games over the years, I would always rather that a setting included a robot than it included a horse.  A robot horse would be ideal.

Robot House HORSE!”

My enthusiasm for Warhammer 40,000 and Star Wars confuses the issue further, as both settings are very much science fantasy or space opera rather than hard sci-fi.

With that predilection in mind, and with Monte Figuero ever expanding, I traded away 99% of my unpainted 28mm fantasy figures earlier this year.  One of the few fantasy projects that I held on to was my 10mm stuff.  Even more surprising is that I have actually done some work on them.

SOS (AKA The Otto Von Bismark) and MT have had Warmaster armies painted up for a decade or so.  MT was kind enough to donate the core of an Orc and Goblin army that he knew that he would never get around to painting a couple of years ago.  I subsequently added some more bits and pieces from various 10mm sources to the Warmaster models that he gave me, so I have loads to keep me going for now.

I hope to get some Warmaster played with these figures.  I would also like to try Hordes of the Things and the upcoming Song of Armies and Hordes from Ganesha Games too.  Mantics Kings of War looks like a system very well suited to that scale and base configuration (despite the fact that it was developed for a company to help them to sell 28mm figs) so I plan to try that out also.

Some photos of my 10mm Orcs and Goblins should be posted up here later this week.

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